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Discussion in 'Accounting & Tax' started by Azazel, 28th Feb, 2016.

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  1. JK200SX

    JK200SX Well-Known Member

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    So whose policy, Labor or Liberal, will favour investors with existing IP's?
     
  2. JacM

    JacM VIC Buyer's Agent - Melbourne, Geelong, Ballarat Business Member

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    Neither
     
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  3. Azazel

    Azazel Well-Known Member

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    It is a bit odd.
    But I bet their phones have been running hot with these geniuses.
     
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  4. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Yeah lets all be poor. No savings, no super - Claim a pension. That will show them.
    Personally I would rather be excluded from a pension under the assets and income tests than get a age pension.
     
  5. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    Likely a few issues that will attract attention by regulators
    - Unlicensed credit advice
    - Calculation and comparison of tax savings is tax agent work - Not registered with TPB
    - Possibly AFSL licensed financial advice ? No AFSL
    - ATO / ASIC will test if they spruik SMSFs (Website says they do)

    Website doesn't appear to comply with AFSL requirements for "financial planning" they offer and they offer SMSF setup.
     
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    158 Well-Known Member

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    Was a fishing expedition Paul....and you took the bait! :p

    pinkboy
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    You have no idea how many people think this is true....Many more than you may expect. They actually think super is bad and the age pension will look after them. Its why they paid taxes all those years now they want it like its powerball. They want to give away $1m+ to get a pension of $12K a year. (And their grubby families often encourage them!!)
     
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  8. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    I had a guy who wanted to give his son a $800k property unencumbered so thst he could get the pension.
     
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    158 Well-Known Member

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    Satire Paul.

    Im fully aware of the epidemic.

    pinkboy
     
  10. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    I am an accountant. I don't have a sense of humour unless I'm in a room of lawyers - Then I appear very amusing.
     
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    BMT Tax Depreciation Chris Business Member

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    Somebody once told me that if you want to make an accountant laugh, just make a joke at the expense of actuaries. Any joke will do.
     
  12. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    79.9% of Actuaries make up statistical correlations
     
  13. fullylucky

    fullylucky Well-Known Member

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    I don't think the ad is wrong... most people buy IP to save on tax...
     
  14. albanga

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    It never ceases to amaze me the way some people act based on advice from the uneducated. I have seen time and time again friends and family make stupid mistakes based on nothing more than speculation.
    When I question "why" the response is "because X said so" or my favorite is cliches like "yeah but property doubles every 7 years".....
     
  15. Terry_w

    Terry_w Lawyer, Tax Adviser and Mortgage broker in Sydney Business Member

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    And X will never be qualified. It amazes me that people will still take tax advice and legal advice from random comments made at a bbq.
     
  16. Paul@PAS

    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    They should buy because the investment issues all work. No point to tax losses if there is also a 50% CGT loss after X years is there ? Or cashflows that are not sustainable eg massive land tax, low rents and high deductions with a low taxable income. I do agree that most see the tax issues as a means to partly fund cashflows.

    I have encountered first year investors shocked to learn the ATO doesn't refund the tax loss and only allow it to offset other income.
     
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    Paul@PAS Tax, Accounting + SMSF + All things Property Tax Business Plus Member

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    And they are adamant their mate is always 100% right.
     
  18. Azazel

    Azazel Well-Known Member

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    I've never bought one to save tax.
    But I am concerned when my pay goes up that I might have to pay more Medicare taxings. I'll reduce that by going on the dole.